Why CDs Sound Better Than Vinyl

Posted on January 9, 2012 - by James Cruz

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That’s a pretty bold statement, I know, and I can feel the collective shudder of the audio world, so I feel I should back it up by telling you a bit about myself. I’ve been a mastering engineer for 18 years. When I started, everything was on tape, digital workstations were new, and every project I worked on went to vinyl. I started at the Hit Factory, was a senior engineer for Sony Music, and now I own my own mastering lab, Zeitgeist Sound Studios in Long Island City. I’ve cut hip-hop singles for OutKast and The Wu-Tang, dance records for C&C Music Factory and Whitney Houston. I’ve cut rock records for Pearl Jam and Metallica. I’ve cut reissues for The Clash and Sly and the Family Stone. I've even done my share of classical records. It's an incredible process and it amazes me every time I do it.

Now to get into my original statement: “CDs sound better than vinyl." I say it for a couple of reasons. There are sonic limitations to vinyl that do not exist on CD. There are also degradation issues that exist on vinyl. The act of playing a record actually destroys it. The inverse is also true of CDs, but in a different way. That is what I would like to discuss.

Let's start with a very brief overview of how records are cut. When a piece of program enters the cutting chain, it gets split to two different places. One split goes to a level attenuator, some filters, an elliptical equalizer, and ends at a very rudimentary and basic computer. The computer tells the lathe how far apart to put the grooves. The second goes to the attenuator, the filters, elliptical equalizer, a high frequency limiter, then the cutter head, which cuts the actual groove in the record. The groove, if looked at under a microscope is actually a complex sine wave. There are variations in depth, it is not straight (it's actually quite wavy), as well as variations in the width. All of these variations are program dependent. If an experienced cutting engineer looks at a groove under a microscope, he (or she) will have a pretty good idea as to what is happening in the music at that particular spot. The groove needs more room to go back and forth the louder the program is. The longer a record is, the lower the volume will be to accommodate the longer grooves. The more bottom end a piece of music has, the deeper the groove needs to be. Filters are usually put in around 35 Hz, but can go much higher for longer sides. Finally the more stereo a track is, the wider the groove has to go. It's actually a V shape and the left and right sides of the audio are on each side of the V, with the center being the point. The wider the stereo, the wider the V needs to be. The elliptical equalizer will take the program and mono all the signals below a certain frequency. Stereo bass can be a disaster to cut, as can any out of phase program. The Neumann electronics (the industry standard) are preset at 150Hz and 300Hz. Cutter heads also have a huge problem with high end. Most engineers will put a high frequency filter in the program as well as use a pretty aggressive de-esser to prevent any problems. Another physical limitation of the medium is "inner diameter distortion." As the record needle travels toward the center of the disk it becomes more difficult to reproduce high frequencies. The frequency response of a vinyl disk is drastically different at the outer section than the inner section. Cutting vinyl is a constant compromise.

CDs have none of these limitations. Outside of not being able to reproduce anything above 20 kHz, anything you want to put on a CD will play. This includes all the bass you can think of, the most sibilant thing you have ever heard, and the craziest phasing effects ever created. Want to put the left hand of your synth on one side and place your vocals 180 degrees out of phase? You can do that; probably not on vinyl. It might sound crazy (or awesome, hmm…) but it can be done.

Don't get me wrong. CDs have their problems too. Most people will tell you "digital doesn't sound good." It might be true, but there are plenty of albums that don't sound great either. The ‘80s were a bad time. Personally, I think it was a dark time for vinyl, and digital was just coming into vogue. Digital still wasn't quite right, and vinyl seemed to be missing that warmth that people love the medium for.

Do I hate vinyl? NO! I absolutely love vinyl. I listen to it all the time. The fact of the matter is this: with converters now sounding as good as they do, engineers understanding higher sample rates and bit depths with proper dithering, digital now sounds pretty good. Do I think CDs actually sound better than vinyl? Yes and no. They sound different, and that's really all I am saying. Proper use of equipment can yield fantastic sounding results on any medium. There are plenty of albums that are still the benchmark for great sounding music. Have you heard an original press of 'Dark Side of the Moon'? It's amazing. Know your gear, know your medium, and make a great sounding record. Getting involved in the argument of "back in the good old days" is fun, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter.

I would love to hear your opinion. Please let me know what you think. I'd like to continue writing articles about the mastering process that interests you, so please let me know what kind of topics you would like discussed and I will do my best to address them. Until next time, keep listening.

About the Author:

James Cruz is a Grammy Award-winning mastering engineer and owner of Zeitgeist Sound Studios in Long Island City, NY. He has worked on projects for artists like OutKast, Wu-Tang Clan, Pearl Jam, Metallica, Calle 13, and more. Head over to his website for his complete discography and contact information.

  • Audiophillic

    I don’t know why, I have the regmastered Beatles on cd and vinyl and for some unknown reason the vinyl just sounds far superior. I own excellent equipment on both ends so it’s not that. So regardless of the science I’m a vinyl fan with all the flaws who stilll liastens to plenty of CDs. Now the next argument is cd vs sacd?

  • der

    CD’s are so damned compressed these days the sound is just awful – no dynamic range.

  • RecordsGoodHitlerBad

    Thanks for telling it like it is. I like vinyl as much as the next guy and am a collector as well, but that doesn’t mean I harbor the delusion that it sounds better than what a CD (or other digital media) can offer. The whole CD vs vinyl argument to me feels like the science vs religion bag of worms. Both sides argue feverishly, and forever will, but when it comes down to it one side is fueled by data, and the other by emotion.

  • Archimago

    Didn’t see this post until today!

    Thanks for the perspective and absolutely agree on the assessment over years of music collection and hardware optimization.

    With the dwindling CD sales, there is no reason for the industry NOT to encourage adoption of vinyl… I see a reverse process going on compared to the 80′s. Instead of using cheaper vinyl like back then, we’re now pressing poorly mastered, dynamically “enhanced” CD’s to the point of distortion and providing improved packaging and workmanship to ‘push’ vinyl at higher cost – all about profits after all.

    Ultimately, my feeling is that CD remains a superior technology with more potential for fidelity – IF the mastering job is good. And that’s a big ‘if’.

    I think the recent move towards high definition digital downloads are a good idea – like HDTracks 24/96. However, even with that, the difference between a high quality 24/96 and well converted 16/44 isn’t all that different and IMO unlikely to penetrate the mainstream.

  • Juan Pablo Riquelme

    cd is better than vinyl. the mastering of cd is shit, why some cds sound too loud or overcompressed ? and the vinyl no? thats my question

    • Juan Pablo Riquelme

      put the quality sound of the vinyl into cd = paradise

      • Anonymous

        put the quality sound of the vinyl into cd = SACD

        • http://www.facebook.com/carolinaandrea.segovia Carolina Andrea Segovia

          the mastering of the vinyl into cd i think he thinking… sacd is a headache: 1- i need a sacd player 2- the mastering of this is not the same than the vinyl 3-the $$$$ 4-mch speaker

        • http://www.facebook.com/rob.ueberfeldt Rob Ueberfeldt

          Why? CDs are perfectly capable of reproducing audible sound.

  • kyle

    Personally I thought that a vinyl rip would by default sound better, after comparing a vinyl rip at over 4000kbps, 96KHz, 24 bit depth to a CD rip @ 1411kbps, 44.1KHx 16bit, Cd to me has a more dynamic range, and sounds more broad, with crisper high’s and more powerful bass, the vinyl sounds to me, more fuzzy, which some people may like but for me I prefer clarity

  • RonRoyce

    An informed and insightful piece :-)

    As an owner of quality audio kit (Linn LP12/Ekos/AT-OC9, Musical Fidelity SACD, Musical Fidelity TriVista 300, Celestion A3′s, Chord Chorus interconnects, Kimber 8TC speaker cable) and someone who prefers the physical over the cloud I would like to add my tuppence…
    I think the sound of CD is perfectly good – the lack of background noise and the increased dynamic range compared to vinyl are advantages that nobody can deny. However, in the early days CD was not so pleasant, and I found the cold, rather harsh sound of early players impossible to listen to. But now the technology has matured and it is a perfectly acceptable medium to listen to, and even some of the older disks sound nowhere near as bad as they did on older CD players.

    What I always hated about the promotion of CD back in the 1980′s was the ‘perfect sound forever’ mantra and the record companies’ wilful destruction of vinyl as a format by issuing poor quality pressings and using poor quality materials, not to mention the dreaded doctoring of the mix. CD sound is not perfect, not by a long way and the disks do not last forever, especially if they are left out in a sunlit room. Plus, whilst they are obviously more rugged than vinyl, a single scratch in the right place renders a CD totally unplayable.

    I have always preferred the sound of vinyl to CD. I just can’t get enough of how it somehow sounds more ‘musical’ than CD. In spite of all of the format’s inherent limitations, the care you have to take with your collection, the expenditure on quality cartridges every 2 years or so, the time spent keeping your turntable set up, I just love the sound of it. When vinyl is at its best it has a special quality I find missing from CD. But I think it is purely a personal thing – horses for courses if you like – and I know a good number of people who prefer CD to vinyl. I think the biggest problem facing CD now is the loudness war. This crazy trend of making the recording as loud as possible to the detriment of everything else is totally killing the format.

    I was very interested in the comments about bass filtering. I have Madonna’s Ray Of Light on both vinyl and CD. This album has some serious low bass, which with a bass filter applied would actually be heard on the vinyl version. And yet there is no discernible difference between either format when it comes to bass extension – and this on a system that is pretty much flat to 30Hz, and doesn’t roll off much until 20Hz. I have heard aggressive bass filtering on vinyl – it is not pleasant and often I think it is completely unnecessary. Any thoughts?

    Additionally I find it hard to understand the supposed side length limit for vinyl. I have a couple of single albums with 60 minutes of music on them that sound utterly fabulous. For example Sepultura’s roots LP, released in 1994, is 34 minutes on side 1. Apart from the reduced volume it sounds utterly amazing thanks to a good quality vinyl and in terms of bass extension it was again no different to the CD. Explain?

    The things that bug me most about vinyl now are the sky high prices – it has effectively doubled in price over the last 3-4 years – and the obsession of pressing everything on doubles – even albums that are just 35 minutes long. WHY???

    • http://www.facebook.com/rob.ueberfeldt Rob Ueberfeldt

      The bass on both those albums probably doesn’t go much below 50Hz, well within the range of a turntable.

  • zm

    I digitized a number of vinyl albums, and, although I definitely hear pops and noise from the vinyl, I have noticed that there is a definite difference between the CD version and the version I digitized from vinyl.  The latter sounds crisper, and the vocals are clearer and less “muddied” or “muted”.  

    I’ve never tried SACD or any of the newer audio formats — I’m just comparing them to the original CD formatted recordings.